From the beginning of time man has desired to have a God to worship that they can see and touch. It wasn’t just the Gentile Nations, but the Israelites were the same way. Both the Gentiles and the Israelites made themselves idols out of material substances or worshipped the Sun or the Moon or whatever they could cast their eyes on.
The Lord God Jehovah made it clear that He was the one and only God and He was a jealous God and warned His people to not worship anything else but Him.
Now in these modern times we are doing the same thing. It isn’t enough to recognize that our Creator, our Lord of Heaven and Earth who proclaims Himself as being the only God for us to worship, so because of our desire to see and touch our God, we are trying to make Jesus our God, who proclaimed to be the Son of God and not God Himself.
You do this by proclaiming that God made himself a body to come into the World to become a kinsman redeemer, which being a kinsman redeemer has nothing to do with it. Jesus stated in Hebrews chapter 10 that God made Jesus a body in order for Him (Jesus) to be the Lamb without blemish to serve as the sacrifice for the sin of the World. If you are going to accept Jesus as being God which was born of Mary, then you might as well celebrate Mary as being the Mother of God and Jesus as being His own Father. How absurd that notion sounds.
Why can’t you people see the truth that Jehovah did not make Himself a flesh body to come to Earth, He sent His Son to be our redeemer. He is not one God in three manifestations or one God in three persons; He is one God by Himself and shares that position with no one else.
Why in the World do you people want to believe this theological mumbo jumbo, these man made doctrines created by those who put their own interpretations to scripture because of their blind ignorance about what the scriptures say. Instead, why can’t you believe a God sent Messenger that proves the truth of God’s Word by clearly pointing to the scriptures? Open your eyes my friends and don’t allow those blind preachers to lead you blindly to false doctrines.
Please look at what the scriptures have to say and believe what you read.
The Apostle John wrote that there are three that bear record in Heaven—the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. God the Father, the Creator of Heaven and earth, is one God and expresses Himself as the Word and the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ, our Lord, is the Son of God, God’s Word made manifest in an earthly body. God spoke Jesus into existence in the body of his Mother Mary. Jesus was the product of the spoken Word of God, the Word of God made manifest in a human body, but Jesus was not God.
Now there are some who will immediately say that having this view and opinion is blasphemy, but to those who will take that stand, then I say to them, you better read and understand once more just exactly what your Bible says about this. Jesus Himself testified that while He was here on earth, both the Father God, and the Holy Spirit were in Heaven. For many times, as He prayed, He addressed the Father who was in Heaven. Then He said that after He was gone, the Father would send the Holy Spirit to us from Heaven.
Now what is the importance of making this distinction between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Simply because there are some who teach that Jesus is God, and according to Jesus’ own testimony, that is not true. There is only one God in Heaven, and that is God the Father, the one that is called Jehovah. He deserves our recognition and our praise and worship because He is the Supreme Being, the Creator of all things, and the Controller of all things that occur, from the beginning to the end. Taking nothing away from our Lord Jesus Christ, for He also deserves our praise for what He has done for mankind, but He is subordinate to God the Father, who is greater than all others. As is recorded in the Gospel of John, the fourteenth chapter and the twenty eighth verse, Jesus said, “my Father is greater than I.”
How well we know that spiritual things are most often hard to understand for we who are earthly creatures, but it is not really necessary to understand all spiritual things. What is necessary and important that we do, is to believe the Word that God has sent to us and preserved for us these hundreds and thousands of years. Our responsibility to God is not necessarily to understand all things, but it is to believe the truth as He has presented it to us. Too many times our theologians offer their interpretation of what the scriptures mean, instead of just accepting what they say as being the truth. If Jesus made a statement about God the Father, then it is the truth. If He made another statement that we think contradicts the first one, then we have erred in our understanding. For Jesus spoke the words that God the Father gave Him.
There is no way that I would have attempted to take the stand that I have, for fear of angering the God of Heaven, had it not been for the Lord Jesus speaking plainly on this subject. So now let us look at a few scriptures that support what has been said so far.
The following scriptures clearly show that Jesus recognized The Father, which is the God of Heaven, as being the Supreme Being, and that He, Jesus, was subordinate to the Father.
That should be enough to show that Jesus Himself testified that He was not God, and that there was a supreme being in Heaven who had control over all things, the Lord of Heaven and earth, God the Father. In addition, many times Jesus said that the Father sent Him into the world to do a work, and when it was finished, He would return back to the Father. That does not sound like Jesus and the Father were one and the same being does it?
Many teachers use the scriptures of John, chapter 14, to justify their position that Jesus was God. When Philip asked Jesus to show them the Father, Jesus said to him, “he that has seen me has seen the Father.” But Jesus was not saying there that He was the Father. What He said was that He was showing them the Father by the works that were being done—that the Father was in Him and the works were performed by the Father. Jesus told them that the Father dwelled in Him. His body was the temple of the Holy Spirit, which was the Spirit of God, and it was not Him that performed the miracles, but God who is a Spirit, performed the miracles. Jesus said to him, if you will not believe my words, what I am telling you, then believe what you see happening, believe the works and know that only God can do those things. Just like He told the Jews in John 10:37-38: If I do not do the works of God, then do not believe me, but if I do those works, believe me that the Father is in me doing the works.
Jesus, on many occasions, made it plain that He was not God, but was the Son of God. After Jesus had healed the blind man, as is recorded in the ninth chapter of John, He asked the man if he believed on the Son of God. When the man asked Him who was the Son of God, Jesus told him that He was. And again Jesus testified to the Jews in John 10:36 that He was the Son of God and the Father God had sent Him into the world. Then as we look in the book of Luke, in the first chapter, we see that the angel told Mary that the son she would give birth to was the Son of God. This was a fulfillment of a prophecy of Isaiah where he said that a virgin would conceive and bear a son, and He would be called Immanuel, which means God with us. God would be with us because of the Spirit of God being in that Son.
When Jesus spoke of His disciples being one with God, He did not mean that the disciples were God, no more than it meant Jesus was God because He was one with the Father. It meant that they all would be one because of the Spirit that was in them (John -22).
Finally, just for one more example, in Revelations, chapter 5, John tells us of what he saw in His vision. He spoke of the Lamb that came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. Clearly there are two beings here, the Father and the Son. They are not one and the same person; neither do the scriptures teach us that. Being one with God is a spiritual relationship and not a physical one. Jesus the Son was one with God in a spiritual way, just as we are one with God and one with His Son. That does not mean that we are all the same beings; we are not. We each hold to our own identity, our own individualism, but at the same time, being spiritually one with each other.
The Scriptures tell us that Jesus talked of giving our worship to the Father. This is what God expects of us. In the beginning, He told us that there was only one God and He was a jealous God. He will not tolerate sharing our worship with anyone else (Eph 4:6, 1 Tim 2:5, Ex 34:14). As satan was tempting Jesus, Jesus said, “You should worship the Lord your God, and Him only should you serve” (Matt 4:10, John 4:23).
Jesus told His disciples, and it should be the same for us, if we had a need, we should pray to the Father and ask our petitions of Him in Jesus’ name. He very plainly said that we should not ask anything of Him (Jesus), but to ask the Father. Saying this as He did, Jesus once again reminds us that there is one greater than Him, God the Father.
I hope and pray that I have written this just as God has revealed it to me. And hope that I have not in any way made the Lord Jesus appear insignificant, for that was not my intent. I look to His words for the truth, and if I have said anything else besides what He said, I am wrong. But if I have helped reveal the truth of the Word of God, just as the scriptures present them to us, then I have done what God has intended for me to do.
The Lord Jesus has earned all the praise and glory that we can give Him, for He made the supreme sacrifice for the atonement for our sins and is the author of our eternal salvation. Not only should we thank Him, but also, we should thank our Heavenly Father Jehovah God for sending His only begotten Son into this world for us.
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I pray that you receive true Revelation on this. You are so wrong.
Yes, when God (The Spirit), overshadowed Mary (the virgin), she was with child, whom God called Him, His Son. And His name shall be called Jesus! How could God in Spirit form, take on the sins of His children. He had to become flesh to feel what we felt, to hurt, like we hurt, to be tempted like we are tempted. He became flesh to redeem us from our fallen state. His precious blood, as an atonement for us. Just as the type, Joseph, who was a kinsman of his brothers, saved them from death. Just as a type, Boaz was a kinsman of Naomi. He redeemed her from her state of destitute by making Ruth, his Bride. Many types of Christ. Noah, Moses, Issac, David, even Esther. If you can't see this, then you really don't know the true and living God, at all. Maybe intelluctually, but not spiritually by Revelation.
My initial inclination was to not post the above comment from “grammyof5”, but after much thought and prayer I hoped that my response to her comment would reveal to her that some of what she had been previously taught about the bible was in error.
The woman who submitted this comment said some things to me that I considered to be in such an arrogant manner that in order to post her comment and respond to it, I had to over look some of what she said to me that was personal. The following things she said to me were “You are so wrong”, “you don’t really know the true and living God”, I have a intellectual but not a spiritual understanding”, and “I don’t see the true revelation about scripture”.
If a true revelation about scripture means to not accept what scripture actually says, but to accept somebody’s interpretation about it, then I’ll pass if the true revelation contradicts the written word.
The subject of Jesus being a kinsman redeemer seems to be a little confusing to this person. According to the teaching of William Branham, which she follows about Jesus being a kinsman redeemer. But William Branham taught that God had created the egg and the sperm together in the womb of Mary to create the man Jesus and Mary was nothing more than an incubator. If this is true, then Jesus could not have been a kinsman redeemer since by bloodline He was not kin to either Mary or Joseph’s family line.
William Branham also stated that Jesus was neither Jew nor Gentile. If what he said was true, then Jesus was of no kinship by bloodline to either group of them.
The kinsman redeemer role that Joseph and Boaz played was real because they were in the bloodline of their kin or family. Joseph was a kinsman redeemer because he was born of man and so was Boaz. Since, as they say, Jesus was not born of man, but was created in Mary’s womb, there exists no kinship there with any of their families.
According to William Branham’s teaching he first said that “The woman produces the egg”, then he said that God created the egg for Jesus’ birth. He also taught that Mary was not the mother of Jesus since her egg was not used for Jesus and consequently she was not his mother.
William Branham stated that Jesus never recognized Mary as being his mother anywhere in the bible. Well, that is not true. In John 19:26-27 Jesus did refer to himself as being Mary’s son, making Mary being recognized as the mother of Jesus. So because of this point William Branham was in error.
Now if Mary did produce the egg for the birth of Jesus and God fertilized it then Jesus was a kinsman to Mary and Joseph’s family. That will then make Him in the line to be a kinsman redeemer for the whole Nation of Israel.
But as I have stated before, being a kinsman redeemer was not as important as being a man born without the strain of sin which came from Adam, which made Him to be the unblemished Lamb of sacrifice needed to atone for the sin of the World.
William Branham criticized the Catholics for calling Mary the mother of God, then taught that Jesus was in fact God and a kinsman redeemer. You can’t have it both ways, Jesus was either a kinsman redeemer because of the bloodline through Mary’s egg, or He was not.
This is just an example of the mess that is created when someone attempts to justify their teaching without regard to considering the totality of what the scriptures say.
jusus é o nosso parente redentor, ELE não é filho de maria de mo algum,foi DEUS o criador quem pois nela tanto os ovos quanto o sangue ou o genes, maria foi apenas uma encubadora... e isso não quer dizer que jesus não é nosso parente, ele é meu parente antes da fundação do mundo eu estava com ele, em sua mente infinita, eu estava em jesus o meu parente.
I thank juner barbosa for your comment and have translated as best as I could from what I believe is the Portuguese language.
The post goes as follows:
"Jesus is our redeemer relative, He is not the son of Mary, He was GOD the creator who therefore was in Mary as the egg, but not the blood or the genes, Mary was only an incubator. This does not say that Jesus is not our relative, He was my relative before the foundation of the world I was with him, in His infinite mind, I was in Jesus my relative."
Once again, as my article clearly states from the wording of the scriptures and not from the wrong interpretation of some preacher, Jesus was the Son of God that was born into this World by way of God the Holy Spirit fertilizing the egg that was in Mary. There is no scripture that tells us that God planted an egg into Mary and provided her as just an incubator for His Son. Jesus carried the genes of Mary His Mother as well as Jehovah His Father.
1Jn 1:1-2 KJV That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (2) (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
1Ti 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God was all these things, including received up into glory.
Act 20:28 KJV Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
God's own blood.
Joh 20:28-29 KJV And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. (29) Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
No rebuke from Jesus, but rather a testimony that Thomas believed.
On the Godhead, here is something I posted elsewhere that might help:
Jesus is the "manifestation" (1 John 1:2), the "declaration" (John 1:18), the "shewing" (John 14:8-10) of the Father. He is not a different person, nor a different God, but the same person in a different form. The reason people get confused is because Jesus is not like a video game avatar or a robot. He is the person of God as a man. Not just "robed in flesh", but "made" flesh. The Word actually became human. He has life in Himself, just like the Father does (John 5:26).
If Jesus did not have to pray, then He would not be in all things made like unto His brethren (Heb 2:17). If Jesus could not say things like, "I go to my God" (John 20:17), then we could not fully relate to Him, and we could not see what God would be if He were a man, because having a God is a fundamental principle of human existence. Aside from that, if Jesus were like a video game avatar that the Father controlled (or God the Son controlled, for that matter, if there were such a thing), then He would be this image of God that we had to interact with because we could not interact with the real thing. But because Jesus the man has life in Himself, we can interact with the real thing! He is actually God as a real human being! It's like the age-old question, "Did God die on the cross?" The answer is, yes and no. On one hand, God the Father cannot die. On the other hand, I can say that my God died for me because Jesus was God the Father as a man, and every step Jesus made from birth to the cross was showing what God would do if He were a man—and He WAS a man in Jesus Christ. I believe it is just as important to see that God made Himself a man as it is to see that the man Jesus was God. One shows the love of God in that He went that far to have a relationship with us. The other shows that Jesus really is the Alpha to Omega deity. He is the name above all names that are named, in Heaven (God) or in Earth (man).
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